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DZC rules stuff!

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1DZC rules stuff! Empty DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:13 pm

anomander2112

anomander2112

A roll of 6 always wins initiative.

Infantry don't block line of sight.

Aircraft can never be hull down.

No premeasuring weapon ranges when moving.

Passive countermeasures are rolled BEFORE damage rolls.

2DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:31 pm

Kieron

Kieron
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So with shooting at aircraft. Is it a case that if you can draw LoS, there's no penalty to shooting? So we don't have to faff about with corners of buildings?

Also, I think roads add 2" to your move, which is then halved for disembarking, rather than halve you initial movement, then add 2".

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3DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 18, 2015 11:35 pm

anomander2112

anomander2112

You need to be able to see the flight stand, or centre of the model, so yes.

Also aircraft that have landed to drop stuff off can be shot at by stuff without AA.

And I agree about the road thing

4DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:34 am

anomander2112

anomander2112

Also, any roll on the energy v armour table can result in double damage. Like falling masonry

5DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:36 am

Kieron

Kieron
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But not against Shaltari...

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6DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 12:50 am

anomander2112

anomander2112

Of course not! Scourge and Cheatari dropships also count as skimmers when they land...

7DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:02 am

General Matton

General Matton

You two are very bitter about the Shaltari, despite them having lost twice. I suspect you've been traumatised by the French.

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8DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:17 am

Kieron

Kieron
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We're just priming the ground for when you do win.

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9DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 1:32 am

General Matton

General Matton

That was my other theory.

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10DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Wed Aug 19, 2015 5:54 am

Pyphoros

Pyphoros

Pretty sure 'On The Deck' contradicts the Aircraft hull down rule though...

Also don't forget Command Radius can also be meaaured from Scouts. Makes shit things much better!

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11DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:18 pm

General Matton

General Matton

We're doing assaults wrong! I think we were doing it right before.

The CC does "commence" in the cleanup step, but you don't roll any dice then. You just sort of declare that those units are in combat.

You only actually fight at the end of the activation of the battlegroup that the defending units belong to.

Which means you can't then activate those units later in the same turn.

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12DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 7:56 pm

anomander2112

anomander2112

http://www.hawkwargames.com/blogs/errata

Errata update! It is new, they just haven't changed the date on it.

Kieron, hannibals are less points now...

13DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:18 pm

General Matton

General Matton

anomander2112 wrote:http://www.hawkwargames.com/blogs/errata

Errata update! It is new, they just haven't changed the date on it.

Kieron, hannibals are less points now...

Hmmm, this seems to make thunderbirds a more worthwhile proposition.

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14DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:21 pm

anomander2112

anomander2112

So, *ahem*, thunderbirds are go?

15DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 8:31 pm

General Matton

General Matton

They're fab!

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16DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:43 pm

anomander2112

anomander2112

Also, fortitude tests after combat are done when squads are below half, not at half.

And if you're in combat you can't leave a building until the combat is completed.

17DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Mon Aug 24, 2015 9:58 pm

General Matton

General Matton

Both of these things would have made a difference in the games I played last night. Games void!

It does make my tactic of piling in to the buildings you've already occupied to stop you getting away with the loot a bit more viable. Still think I need more infantry though, they're too fragile at 3 models per stand.

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18DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:00 am

Pyphoros

Pyphoros

That's how we were playing until you threw a load of new made up rules at us!

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19DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:02 am

General Matton

General Matton

It was all Pete's fault! He read a bit of the page and we got carried away!

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20DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:03 am

anomander2112

anomander2112

If the rest of you read the rules we wouldn't have these issues would we!?

21DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:07 am

Kieron

Kieron
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There are rules? Where?

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22DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:26 am

General Matton

General Matton

You went and read the rules first! Now you're Rulesmeister and the rest of us needn't bother.

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23DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:27 am

anomander2112

anomander2112

Clearly you're wrong!

24DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 1:55 am

Kieron

Kieron
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Yup...them's the rules (not that I read them). You goaded us into playing the game, therefore you are responsible for all rules confusions until the end of time.

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25DZC rules stuff! Empty Re: DZC rules stuff! Tue Aug 25, 2015 2:03 am

anomander2112

anomander2112

How come that doesn't happen with bolt action then?

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